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		<title>Comment on Popular Misconceptions about Designing for the Web by Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the comment, Dave.

Context is hard, I agree. I&#039;m not sure of an 100% solution, but I think it&#039;s something that needs to be explored more - at the moment, I feel we shy away from it a little because it is hard, and/or design messily around it, rather than attempting a standard approach, and then iterating on that.

My instinct is to go for a canonical, public facing URL for each thing, and then append the context to the URL, but also, in the public facing experience, I&#039;d go a little less abstract than /things - so:

/people/arnold-s
/people/arnold-s/politics
/people/arnold-s/entertainment

This appeals to me mainly because of the hackability - that you could potentially see different aspects of the same person more easily, and because the information is similar across people. It wouldn&#039;t stop you having a /politics or /entertainment aggregation of people, though.

I can see that your suggested way will also have many advantages - and honestly, whilst I lean towards the above, I&#039;d advocate the importance of trying small prototypes of both approaches and learning from that as a key next step, rather than making the decision up front. But that might not always be possible, of course...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, Dave.</p>
<p>Context is hard, I agree. I&#8217;m not sure of an 100% solution, but I think it&#8217;s something that needs to be explored more &#8211; at the moment, I feel we shy away from it a little because it is hard, and/or design messily around it, rather than attempting a standard approach, and then iterating on that.</p>
<p>My instinct is to go for a canonical, public facing URL for each thing, and then append the context to the URL, but also, in the public facing experience, I&#8217;d go a little less abstract than /things &#8211; so:</p>
<p>/people/arnold-s<br />
/people/arnold-s/politics<br />
/people/arnold-s/entertainment</p>
<p>This appeals to me mainly because of the hackability &#8211; that you could potentially see different aspects of the same person more easily, and because the information is similar across people. It wouldn&#8217;t stop you having a /politics or /entertainment aggregation of people, though.</p>
<p>I can see that your suggested way will also have many advantages &#8211; and honestly, whilst I lean towards the above, I&#8217;d advocate the importance of trying small prototypes of both approaches and learning from that as a key next step, rather than making the decision up front. But that might not always be possible, of course&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Popular Misconceptions about Designing for the Web by Dave Rogers (@daverog)</title>
		<link>http://www.r4isstatic.com/489/comment-page-1#comment-1142</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Rogers (@daverog)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post, and I think I agree with the essence of it: build a great UX around a thing, at one-URL, where the experience can evolve over time and benefit from its permanent, canonical location (is that a correct summary?).

Now, I don&#039;t actually have a good solution to this problem, but what about &#039;contextualised&#039; things? Clearly if it&#039;s personal context (geography, device etc) then you&#039;ll want to take responsive approaches, but what about more nuanced contexts that depend on what the user is interested in at a particular time.

I am thinking along the lines of two contexts like these:
- I am interested in Arnold Schwarzenegger, the politician
- I am interested in Arnold Schwarzenegger, the movie star

Would you consider each one a composite &#039;thing&#039;? 

If yes, what is this thing? (and would this be the start of a slippery slope?)

If no, would each user want to experience something different depending on their interest?
e.g. 
/things/arnold-s = generic page
/politics/arnold-s = a politics &#039;view&#039; over this person
/entertainment/arnold-s = an entertainment &#039;view&#039; over this person

Dave]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, and I think I agree with the essence of it: build a great UX around a thing, at one-URL, where the experience can evolve over time and benefit from its permanent, canonical location (is that a correct summary?).</p>
<p>Now, I don&#8217;t actually have a good solution to this problem, but what about &#8216;contextualised&#8217; things? Clearly if it&#8217;s personal context (geography, device etc) then you&#8217;ll want to take responsive approaches, but what about more nuanced contexts that depend on what the user is interested in at a particular time.</p>
<p>I am thinking along the lines of two contexts like these:<br />
- I am interested in Arnold Schwarzenegger, the politician<br />
- I am interested in Arnold Schwarzenegger, the movie star</p>
<p>Would you consider each one a composite &#8216;thing&#8217;? </p>
<p>If yes, what is this thing? (and would this be the start of a slippery slope?)</p>
<p>If no, would each user want to experience something different depending on their interest?<br />
e.g.<br />
/things/arnold-s = generic page<br />
/politics/arnold-s = a politics &#8216;view&#8217; over this person<br />
/entertainment/arnold-s = an entertainment &#8216;view&#8217; over this person</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>Comment on Popular Misconceptions about Designing for the Web by Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.r4isstatic.com/489/comment-page-1#comment-1141</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[D&#039;oh! Thanks for spotting that - will fix now. Glad you found it an interesting read.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D&#8217;oh! Thanks for spotting that &#8211; will fix now. Glad you found it an interesting read.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Popular Misconceptions about Designing for the Web by Chris Hunt</title>
		<link>http://www.r4isstatic.com/489/comment-page-1#comment-1140</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If there’s one thing we learned from the first decade of the twentieth century in Web development and product management...&quot;

...It&#039;s that it&#039;s very hard to deliver a good user experience over telegraph wires, through the post, or by using Mr Marconi&#039;s new-fangled radio.

We learnt a lot more by the first decade of the Twenty-First century though.

Good article, silly typos aside.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If there’s one thing we learned from the first decade of the twentieth century in Web development and product management&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;It&#8217;s that it&#8217;s very hard to deliver a good user experience over telegraph wires, through the post, or by using Mr Marconi&#8217;s new-fangled radio.</p>
<p>We learnt a lot more by the first decade of the Twenty-First century though.</p>
<p>Good article, silly typos aside.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Popular Misconceptions about Designing for the Web by Bruce Lawson&#8217;s personal site&#160; : Reading List</title>
		<link>http://www.r4isstatic.com/489/comment-page-1#comment-1139</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Lawson&#8217;s personal site&#160; : Reading List</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Popular Misconceptions about Designing for the Web &#8211; why &#8220;one-URL-per-thing&#8221; remains the best architectural foundation for web sites [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Popular Misconceptions about Designing for the Web &#8211; why &#8220;one-URL-per-thing&#8221; remains the best architectural foundation for web sites [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Popular Misconceptions about Designing for the Web by Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indeed, as I say, may not be always appropriate, but I find it&#039;s a very good general approach - more often than you&#039;d think ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, as I say, may not be always appropriate, but I find it&#8217;s a very good general approach &#8211; more often than you&#8217;d think <img src='http://www.r4isstatic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Popular Misconceptions about Designing for the Web by Sandra Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, so maybe Channel 4&#039;s &quot;scrap booking&quot; approach is the delightful experience built on top of a good solid base of one address per presenter *and* subject *and* program... 

I have mostly worked on smaller sites to date, which have not had quite so much content to organize, but I will bring this kind of thinking with me in future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, so maybe Channel 4&#8242;s &#8220;scrap booking&#8221; approach is the delightful experience built on top of a good solid base of one address per presenter *and* subject *and* program&#8230; </p>
<p>I have mostly worked on smaller sites to date, which have not had quite so much content to organize, but I will bring this kind of thinking with me in future.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Popular Misconceptions about Designing for the Web by Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello! Yes, well the first ones that come to mind are some of the ones I&#039;ve worked on/around at the BBC:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes
http://www.bbc.co.uk/music
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/wildlife

The UX isn&#039;t necessarily perfect, as I discussed in the blog post, but the foundations are there. And machine readable, too!

Channel 4&#039;s Programmes platform, which is the underpinning of 4oD, is a great example of this approach too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello! Yes, well the first ones that come to mind are some of the ones I&#8217;ve worked on/around at the BBC:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes</a><br />
<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/music" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/music</a><br />
<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/wildlife" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/wildlife</a></p>
<p>The UX isn&#8217;t necessarily perfect, as I discussed in the blog post, but the foundations are there. And machine readable, too!</p>
<p>Channel 4&#8242;s Programmes platform, which is the underpinning of 4oD, is a great example of this approach too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Popular Misconceptions about Designing for the Web by Sandra Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Paul, thank you for the illuminating article, do you have an favourite examples of companies doing the one-URL-per-thing approach well?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul, thank you for the illuminating article, do you have an favourite examples of companies doing the one-URL-per-thing approach well?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Alastair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2013 12:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As tactile design for the blind, we&#039;ve been thinking about eyes-free UI for a while. There&#039;s some good apps like Fleksy already but we&#039;re playing with ideas of touch like PaperRound http://acuitydesign.blogspot.co.uk/p/paperround-summary-paperroundis-acuity.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As tactile design for the blind, we&#8217;ve been thinking about eyes-free UI for a while. There&#8217;s some good apps like Fleksy already but we&#8217;re playing with ideas of touch like PaperRound <a href="http://acuitydesign.blogspot.co.uk/p/paperround-summary-paperroundis-acuity.html" rel="nofollow">http://acuitydesign.blogspot.co.uk/p/paperround-summary-paperroundis-acuity.html</a></p>
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